名人：ダメです。廃人になるまでやるなんて。たかがホビーですよ。娯楽っていうのは、何かをしてそれを休むためにあるんです。その娯楽を24時間やったら娯楽じゃなくなるんですよ。ホッとする瞬間を作るから休めるんであって。それがパチンコとかでもいいわけですよ。他にもテレビゲームやスマホだったりネットゲームだったり、サッカーやったりとか何でもいいと思うんですよね。
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